[WT-support] ESM and exchange guessing. How to resolve the messages sequence

[Bob Wilson, N6TV]

WT works as intended in S&P mode IF you type callsigns instead of clicking
spots, like you would do in "unassisted" mode.  WT doesn't prefill the
exchange in S&P mode like it does in RUN mode, to allow the ESM mode to
work properly.

The problem is that clicking on a spot ALWAYS moves the cursor to the
exchange box (no point in leaving it in the callsign box), and that
prefills the exchange.

ESM mode can't work well in S&P mode given this behavior.  I don't think it
has ever worked.

For now, all you can do is press F4 instead of Enter to call a station
after clicking on a spot, then press Enter to send the exchange and Enter
one more time to log it

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 7:54 AM IZ4MJP Franco <franco at iz4mjp.com> wrote:

> Hello Bob,
> Already done yesterday.
> I use WinTest since 2010 so i'm aware of the parameters for switch to RUN
> or S&P and how to activate them.
> The only solution I've found is to use the shortcut SHIFT+DEL to clear the
> report, but otherwise the ESM doesn't work as it should.
>
> I forgot to mention that i use an iCom 7300 with your Win-Test Scripts in
> order to trigger Voice and CW Keyer but i don't think it's important.
>
> I continue to investigate.
>
> 73, IZ4MJP Franco


On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 11:36 AM Bob Wilson, N6TV <n6tv at arrl.net> wrote:

> RUNSP [enter]
> Press Ctrl-Tab to switch to S&P mode
>
> Try again.
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>
> On Sat, Jul 12, 2025, 7:21 AM IZ4MJP Franco <franco at iz4mjp.com> wrote:
>
>> Let me start by saying that I haven't used WinTest for a few years.
>>
>> Today I decided to participate in the IARU HF Contest (Mixed Mode).
>>
>> After configuring WinTest (New Contest) and activating the ESM function,
>> I noticed that double-clicking on a callsign  (taken from Radio 1 window)
>>  WT automatically inserts the ITU zone, even without pressing the space bar
>> (as request).
>>
>>
>>
>> This sequence create me a lot of troubles: when i hit Enter WT send 599
>> 28 and not my call forcing me to manage the QSO with the F keys.
>>
>> I don't remember ever having this sequence problem in the past but we're
>> talking about 5 or 6 years ago
>>
>>
>>
>> My goal is:
>>
>> Click on the call in the Radio 1 windows
>>
>> Press “Return” and send my callsign
>>
>> Press the space bar to obtain the ITU Zone (or manually enter it)
>>
>> Press Return to send 599 28 and log the QSO.
>>
>>
>>
>> I searched for a solution on the WinTest Wiki, but the only way I could
>> find to avoid the ESM's incorrect response was to delete the
>> (automatically) inserted report (e.g., 28).
>>
>>
>>
>> I tried to prevent exchange guessing from working and even disable the
>> function but I was unsuccessful.
>>
>>
>>
>> I only operate in contest as S&P.
>>
>>
>>
>> These are the messages in "Standard CW Messages."
>>
>>
>>
>> F1 DE $MYCALL
>>
>> F2 $SETEXCHSENT ++$RST-- $ZONE
>>
>> F3 $ZONE
>>
>> F4 $MYCALL
>>
>> F5 $LOGGEDCALL
>>
>> F6 NR?
>>
>> F7 ?
>>
>> F8 R UR $F2
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm wondering where I went wrong with the program configuration.
>>
>> My PC is running Win 11 and the latest version of WT 4.57 (Italian
>> Language).
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me resolve this issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best 73, IZ4MJP Franco
>>
>>
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