[WT-support] Why Extract and Save QSO shifts time?

Bob Wilson, N6TV n6tv at arrl.net
Wed Apr 1 23:14:44 CEST 2015


I have not been able to exactly reproduce this problem on WT 4.16, but I am
using the Fraunhofer CODEC instead of LAME.  There's a note in the Release
notes about this:


- MP3 setup : Only the CBR codecs are now displayed in the setup
  dialogs. The usage of the ABR codecs (most of the LAME ACM ones) is
  too erratic to be trusted in.

(CBR = Constant Bit Rate, ABR = Average Bit Rate)

Win-Test uses interpolation to locate the correct offset within the MP3
file.  It records the timestamp of every QSO precisely, when it is logged,
but then it must use interpolation to *approximate* the offset to the audio
clip within the MP3 file.  Maybe that has something to do with it.

Tip:  to enable the fixed bit rate Fraunhofer CODEC on Windows 7 and later,
32-bit or 64-bit, and run the batch file referenced here:

http://www.komeil.com/blog/enable-fraunhofer-mp3-l3codecp-acm-windows
http://www.komeil.com/download/264  (click the small blue download button,
nothing else, then run the batch file, as administrator)

It's a little scary to run this batch file because it updates the Windows
Registry (be sure to download, right click on file, and select "Run as
Administrator"), but it has worked very well for me on multiple computers
with no apparent side effects.

In WT 4.16, you can set the "Time Before QSO was Logged" to a minimum of
1s, but not 0s.  However, it still seems to start the recording about 15
seconds before the QSO was logged, not 1 second, so it does work rather
mysteriously.  But I am using an 8000 Hz sample rate and a 24 kBit/s bit
rate.  Perhaps when other rates are used, the QSO offset isn't calculated
precisely.  Or there could be a subtle bug in the Contest Recorder offset
calculations at certain bit rates.

Please tell us exactly which CODEC, Sample Rate, and Bit Rate you have
selected so we can try to replicate the problem.

73,
Bob, N6TV

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Tonno Vahk <tonno.vahk at gmail.com> wrote:

> A small thing. When you play a QSO recording from the log with AltGr+Enter
> everything is fine and recording starts at correct time. But when you
> Extract and Save QSO the recording starts considerably earlier even if you
> set Time Before QSO Was Logged to zero. That means in order to get normal
> 30
> sec to 1 minute audio clip one has to actually extract the next or one
> after
> next QSO!
>
> Any ideas why this happens? It is pretty inconvinient especially if there
> is
> no immidiate next QSO. I remember that way back it worked fine but this
> issue has developed at some point of time..
>
> 73
> Tonno
> Es5tv
>
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