If you take away the "++" and "--" from the CW messages, does the problem disappear?<br><br>73,<br>Bob, N6TV<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Braco OE1EMS <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oe1ems@emssolutions.at">oe1ems@emssolutions.at</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">same problem @ E7DX</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">using MKII or MK2R+ </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">was same also with older WT
versions!</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">73s</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Braco</font></div><font color="#888888">
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<div style="font: 10pt arial; background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228);"><b>From:</b>
<a title="ve3xb@rogers.com" href="mailto:ve3xb@rogers.com" target="_blank">Yuri VE3XB</a> </div>
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</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:04
PM</div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WT-support] Speed jumps up
occasionally</div>
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<div>I noticed that CW speed was jumping only after I logged 3-4 QSOs per
minute for a few minutes in a row.</div>
<div>I didn't look too deep into WT setup @ VE3EJ station
and assumed that this was some kind of "smart" feature helping
to handle pile-up more effectively. It didn't bother me too much because every
next transmition was back to normal speed.</div>
<div>Hope it'll help to figure out the cause of this phenomena.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>73 Yuri VE3XB</div>
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<a title="n6tv@arrl.net" href="mailto:n6tv@arrl.net" target="_blank">Bob Wilson, N6TV</a>
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<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:36
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<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WT-support] Speed jumps
up occasionally</div>
<div><br></div>I assume you use a lot of "+++" and "---" in your
scripts? Which WinKey chip version are you using? (Win-Test
reports WK Version detected it at start-up at the bottom of the logging
window).<br><br>The last time I looked at a WinKey communications log, which
you can produce using the microHAM Router [SET] button next to the Winkey
port, I saw that Win-Test can sometimes issue [Cancel Buffered Speed Change]
commands (1E) between every letter sent.<br><br>According to a private note
from K1EL, copied to Oliver and Laurent last January:<br><br>"All the <span>buffered</span> <span>speed</span> cancels are troubling,
the application should keep track of <span>speed</span> changes and
only issue commands when they are really warranted. While WKUSB is able to
handle them it chews up a ton of CPU bandwidth to constantly invoke all the
math calls that are required."<br><br>So there could indeed be a problem
with the way Win-Test is sending commands to the WinKey.<br><br>BTW, using
"+++" and "---" will usually make it somewhat harder for CW Skimmers to
figure out your code speed and your callsign. I've decided not to use
them any more and I've had no issues with WinKey speed
jumps.<br><br>73,<br>Bob, N6TV<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:55 AM, "Jörg Hochheimer,
DL6ZBN" <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dl6zbn@gmx.net" target="_blank">dl6zbn@gmx.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hi Bob and folks,<br><br>hmm... I
didn't touch the CW speed knob on my MK2 at all during the contest. Just
used ALT-F9/F10 and the ++ and -- commands in the WT CW messages, but
every now and then, the ++ AND(!) the consecutive -- was ignored by WT or
WK or MK2 or whatever... it just stayed at the original speed. And then,
for the next couple of messages, it was doing as designed, just till it
failed again. Speed pot min setting for WK inside the MicroHam Device
Router is 15, max is 40, and in WT I used speeds from around 25 to 35 wpm.
So this was well within the bounds, thus it should have been OK, according
to your suggestion, Bob.<br><br>I have tried the "CW message and paddle
speeds" both set to "Independent" or </font><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">"Synchronized", and the speed settings
set to both "Only by the WinKey pot" or "Only by the WT commands...", and
it occurs in each of those settings.<br><br>I know, that is somewhat
different to George's problem, but our effects may have a common
cause.<br><br>Using WT 4.7.0-dev Rev. 458 and MicroHAM Device Router
7.7.1.<br><br>Best 73s de Joerg, DL6ZBN<br><br></font><br>Am 30.11.2010
05:17, schrieb Bob Wilson, N6TV:
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<blockquote type="cite">See <a href="http://www.f5mzn.org/pipermail/support/2008-May/075776.html" target="_blank">this post</a> for some history about this issue.
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<div>Bottom line, Win-Test assumes a speed pot range of 20 WPM to 60
WPM. If you use any other ranges, the speeds can get out of sync.
When you change speed with Win-Test, the POT does
<i>not</i> move to track the new speed, so its position is
immediately out of sync. Slightly touching it or some other
vibration might cause a resync to pot speed, and a speed jump.</div>
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<div>All WinKey / Win-Test speed jump issues go away if you forget about
touching the speed knob and only use Win-Test to change speeds, that is,
use "the only by the Win-Test commands" option in <a href="http://docs.win-test.com/wiki/Menu:Options#WinKey_configuration..." target="_blank">Options | Winkey configuration</a> .<br><br></div>
<div>73,</div>
<div>Bob, N6TV </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:21 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Georgek5kg@aol.com" target="_blank">Georgek5kg@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Here is a question for both the WT and Microham support
reflectors:</div>
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<div>I find that occasionally the speed will jump up many wpm
when I send a "TU K5KG" message from the "+" key. I will be
running and running, and sending TU K5KG with the + key QSO after
QSO. Then, every now and then, when I send TU K5KG from the +
key, the speed will jump up to lightning fast (maybe 50 wpm).
I'd appreciate any ideas as to why this happens, and what to do to
prevent it.</div>
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<div>Here is my current set up: Microham CW Keyer, WinTest 4.6,
K3. Although, this is my current set up, the speed jump up
also happened with WT 3.n and an Icom Pro3. Bottom line, it has
been happening for several years. The common elements seem to be
WT and the CW Keyer.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>73, George, K5KG</div>
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<div><font face="Arial" lang="0" size="2">George Wagner, K5KG<br>Sarasota,
FL <br>941-400-1960
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