<div>Hi Bob</div>
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<div>Yes, CW and SSB should work the same. I think we had this talk about a year ago... :-)</div>
<div>My original response to this thread was just to highlight that the caps/Shift behaviour is a feature (by definition).</div>
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<div>I will try to check my e-mails rom 2005 when F5MZN and I were testing the advanced SO2R specifications, BUT I remember this discussion with him.</div>
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<div>Basically the logic behind everything was (this was 2005 specs) and still valid for today:</div>
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<div>caps/shif is a matter of focus to put a callsign into the secondary radio call field (comparing to TR saves a finger alt+d versus shift)</div>
<div>Function keys F1,F2,... follow the focus and are sent to the highlighted radio by caps/shift</div>
<div>You can overide the above line by using $TR1 or $TR2 within the messages</div>
<div>>>>>Manual transmissions are sent to active radio</div>
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<div>Now you say in your point 4 and 5</div>
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<div>4.Now at this point, <i>after </i>pressing a message key, if you want send something more, like a QSY request or a repeat, using the paddles, it works OK, output goes to the (highlighted) secondary radio.<br>5However, at the same point, if you speak into the microphone, output goes to the PRIMARY (non-highlighted) radio, and this is the bug. CW and Phone should work the same.</div>
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<div>I agree that SSB and CW should have the very same behaviour.</div>
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<div>The point now is, by definition</div>
<div>Where should any manual transmission go?</div>
<div>All the time to the primary radio, and it is up the op to control that with "*"</div>
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<div>All the time to the primary radio, and it is up the op to control that with "*", with the exception that after pressing a messaeg key if you send something more, the output goes to the highlighted secondary radio</div>
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<div>?</div>
<div>José<br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:n6tv@arrl.net">n6tv@arrl.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/20 José Nunes CT1BOH <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ct1boh@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct1boh@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>1. Shift Key (have to keep pressing it to keep focus on the secondary radio)</div>
<div>2. Caps lock key (once it is "on" the focus in on the secondary radio and remains there until the key if "off")</div>
<div>and (3. Using scripts in messagens to automatically control focus (need programming scripts))</div>
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<div>These are features of advanced SO2R specifications!</div></blockquote></div>
<div><br>Yes, but this is no longer working as designed on phone, if you want to speak something into the microphone and have it transmitted on the secondary radio. That is why <a href="http://flyspray.win-test.com/index.php?id=264&do=details" target="_blank">task #264</a> was opened almost a year ago. Do you (José) agree that it is a bug?<br>
<br>In the old days, I believe, you could press CapsLock, and F4, and then say something on the second radio by speaking into the mic. That doesn't work any more, last time I checked. This cannot be fixed by using $TR1 and $TR2.<br>
<br>To review:<br>
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<li>CapsLock (or Shift) changes data entry focus ONLY, to secondary radio (it turns yellow)</li>
<li>At this point, if you speak into the mic. or use the paddles, output goes to <i>primary</i> radio, NOT secondary (this is OK and by design)</li>
<li>Next, press a message key like F4 or F2 to send your call and exchange, while the secondary radio is highlighted yellow. This output will go to the secondary radio (this is OK and by design)</li>
<li>Now at this point, <i>after </i>pressing a message key, if you want send something more, like a QSY request or a repeat, using the paddles, it works OK, output goes to the (highlighted) secondary radio.</li>
<li>However, at the same point, if you speak into the microphone, output goes to the PRIMARY (non-highlighted) radio, and this is the bug. CW and Phone should work the same.<br></li></ol>QSL?<br><br>The complexity of Win-Test's Advanced SO2R techniques for S&P and dupe checking on the secondary radio led me to create the "AltD" scripts, which require far fewer keystrokes to accomplish the same thing. I tried to make it keystroke compatible with TRlog, for those who are used to it. It works with or without ESM mode.<br>
<br>Installation instructions and usage description are at <a href="http://bit.ly/wtscripts" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/wtscripts</a> in AltDScripts3.zip in Readme.txt.<br><br>73,<br>Bob, N6TV<br></div></div></blockquote>
</div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>-- <br>José Nunes<br>CONTEST CT1BOH - <a href="http://www.qsl.net/ct1boh">http://www.qsl.net/ct1boh</a><br>