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<DIV><SPAN class=031253807-09042008><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks to Braco and
Jose for their suggestions. It looks like some of this may be a little slicker
with EZMASTER or MK2R+ where PTT from the footswitch is sensed by the
program.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=031253807-09042008><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=031253807-09042008><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial>Jose - yes - I
can see that the CQ will stop as soon as you send a message in CW, or a DVP
message on SSB. Of course, when you reply to a station on SSB you go for the
footswitch, not a DVP message so it may a good way of doing things on CW, but
it's much less efficient on SSB! I guess I can configure an empty DVP memory and
press that before answering the station though - a bit clunky
though.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN class=031253807-09042008></SPAN><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><BR><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=031253807-09042008><FONT face=Arial>As to handling switching the callsign
field between radio 1 and radio 2 - I think I'll just have to get used to it
being different. Braco suggested using the footswitch which is a good idea, but
I already have two footswitches - one for PTT and one for switching Rx antenna
so I'm not sure I want a third! I need another leg!</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=031253807-09042008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=031253807-09042008>73,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=031253807-09042008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=031253807-09042008>Andy,
G4PIQ</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=031253807-09042008></SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT><BR><FONT size=2>-----<BR><B>From:</B>
support-bounces@win-test.com [mailto:support-bounces@win-test.com] <B>On Behalf
Of </B>José Nunes CT1BOH<BR><B>Sent:</B> 09 April 2008 07:30<BR><B>To:</B>
support@win-test.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Bulk] Re: [WT-support] Feedback from
WPX SSB<BR><BR></FONT></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV>Hi Andy</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>A couple of answers:<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>2008/4/8 Andy Cook, G4PIQ <<A
href="mailto:g4piq@btinternet.com">g4piq@btinternet.com</A>>:<BR>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>I ran my second serious contest with
Win-Test as M6T SOAB during WPX SSB. I had SO2R better configured this time
but I still ran across a few problems. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. There were occasions where pressing
any of the DVP keys would put the active radio into transmit, but would
connect the microphone rather than play the DVP message. I think this was
usually after aborting a DVP message on the second radio (e.g. via shift F4
and pressing Esc before the message completed). Needed to restart Win-Test
to get everything working again. Probably happened about 20 times during 36
hours operating. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. Sometimes the outgoing DVP messages
would become chopped-up as if another process was getting CPU time priority.
Again - needed a restart. Happened about 10 times during 36 hours
operating.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. When running alternating CQs in SO2R
mode (using the default macro), when it came to answer a caller (so using
the microphone, not sending a DVP message) sometimes the PTT and microphone
line would be directed to the wrong radio. I think I cleared this with a
couple of presses of the * key and then sending a DVP message. Only happened
about 5 times, but I didn't use alternating CQs very much (< 1 hour).
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>4. I couldn't see how to configure Latch
mode. I only had 2 COM ports on the PC and those were being taken up by the
radios. I tried (briefly) configuring various other fake SO2R controllers on
one of those COM ports as a test, but still couldn't get Latch mode to work.
So my technique for working someone on the second radio was a rather clunky,
SHIFT-F4, *, enter callsign, send report, hit enter, *.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then I have three feature requests. These
fall into the category of - can we make Win-Test behave more like TR
Log - for which I apologise. I used TR for a long time and it really
does have a very slick SO2R interface - but equally, I'm happy to be told
that I'm just not using Win-Test right though!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. When in alternating CQ mode, as soon
as you start to enter a callsign, drop the CQ on the second radio and return
PTT and microphone to the radio where the caller is. Currently Win-Test
seems to wait until the end of the DVP message to do this (or at least
doesn't abort quickly enough with Esc) and I was left with a lot of awkward
pauses. </FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>I wrote the specs with F5MZN for SO2R in WT.</DIV>
<DIV>When you start typing something on the callsign field, the CQ is not
supposed to be dropped on the other radio as you ask.</DIV>
<DIV>The CQ must go on the other radio until you start transmitting (hit
INSERT ON CW) what you just typed. Only when you start transmitting the CQ
ahould be dropped.</DIV>
<DIV>This was the request and this is the way it should be to have the maximum
efficiency in SO2R Alternate Mode!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. Strangely, I find having to either
toggle CAPS LOCK on or off, or hold the SHIFT key down to enter a callsign
in the 2nd radio window awkward (especially when your fingers are frozen!),
and more so having to hit SHIFT-F11 to clear the window if it's a dupe, or
SHIFT-CTRL-ENTER to clear it and put it into the bandmap. Is there any
config which makes this as simple as TR's ALT-D, enter Callsign, ENTER to do
a DUPE check, MULT check, band map enter and if not a dupe line up ready to
call with just the SPACE bar. </FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Ther are two things here</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>1- is how to access the call sign fields of each radio</DIV>
<DIV>2- is how to act on calls that are on the callsign fields</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>The CAPS LOCK / SHIFT KEY is there because there is only one keyboard
(just like Alt-D on TR). With this functionality you can still type calls on
the two callsign fileds (radio1 or radio2 callsign fields) particularly if you
are using the SHIFT key.</DIV>
<DIV>NO SHIFT- what you type goes to primary radio</DIV>
<DIV>SHIFT ON - what you type goes to secondary radio. </DIV>
<DIV>With this way of doing things you can alternate calls on the two fields
very easily. I do this a lot when in intense SO2R.</DIV>
<DIV>WIth TR once you hit ALT-D you are locked into that field. To get out of
ALT-D you need to hit ESC. So if you are using WT, and Shift key, you don't
need to use the ESC key, one less key to push.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Now you have calls in the callsign fields of each radio.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>With TR you are locked in the ALT-D filed and you can only act on the
"secondary radio" hitting space to start transmitting.</DIV>
<DIV>With WT you have one more option. You can start transmitting on primary
radio (INSERT) or on secondary radio (SHIFT+INSERT)</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>In conlcusion, WT behaviour was designed to be one step ahead in this
functionality, in situations where more intense SO2R require full control of
both radios.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. Aborting CQs with Esc isn't instant -
it takes a few hundred ms which means a few more lost characters when you
realise that someone was just starting to call you as you hit F1 or the auto
CQ went off. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>Configuration was P4 1.6 GHz, 1 Gb RAM,
Win XP Pro SP2, Homebrew SO2R controller from LPT port.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>If anyone can shed any light on any of
these problems (do others see them as well), that would be really helpful.
I've made the switch to Win-Test now (reconfigured my SO2R controller!) -
just need to get it working 100%.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>73,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><FONT
color=#888888>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2>Andy,
G4PIQ</FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Support
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clear=all><BR>-- <BR>-- <BR>José Nunes<BR>CONTEST CT1BOH - <A
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